The United States must sever ties to Saudi Arabia October 19, 2017
Freedom From Religion Foundation
The Freedom From Religion Foundation is calling on the United States to break off diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi regime's torture and murder of dissident Jamal Khashoggi has exposed the brutality of the country's ruling apparatus. But the problem with the country is far more fundamental: It is an absolute theocracy. The Saudi Constitution is essentially the Quran. When that is the basis of your legal system, regression reigns on all fronts.

This is most glaringly obvious when it comes to women's rights. The ban on women drivers may have been lifted (a cynical p.r. ploy by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman) but women continue to be second-class citizens. "The country's odious male guardianship system is still firmly in place, so women in Saudi remain at the mercy of their male relatives if they wish to travel abroad, marry, work or get health care," Human Rights Watch remarked when the revocation of the driving proscription was announced last year.

The Saudi monarchy also prohibits any expression of religion other than Islam. As for freethought, it is punishable by death, as evidenced from an example last year, where Ahmad Al-Shamri was subjected to capital punishment for atheistic social media posts that "insulted" Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. (FFRF launched a clemency campaign for Al-Shamri.)

But the damage that the Saudi fundamentalist monarchy is doing is not limited to home base. Indeed, the virulent Wahhabi form of Islam that the kingdom patronizes and globally disseminates has fomented extremism and terrorism around the world. From Indonesia and South Asia to the Balkans and North Africa, the Saudis are busy undermining pluralism and tolerance. In a December 2009 leaked diplomatic cable, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stated that entities in Saudi Arabia were the "most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide." She said that "the groups funded included al-Qaida, the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba" (the group responsible for the 2008 attacks in Mumbai, India).

The Saudi regime is terribly sectarian, too. The hardline Sunni variant that the regime practices views the Shiite branch of Islam as akin to apostasy. That's the major reason the Saudis have engaged in a multipronged war to combat the Shia clerics of Iran - a fight in which they have enlisted the United States on their side. In fact, Saudi drums are now beating to all-out attack Iran.

The Saudi monarchy's aggressions have gotten worse under the crown prince, the alleged mastermind behind Washington Post commentator Khashoggi's dismemberment and murder.

Salman "attacked Yemen, creating what the United Nations calls the world's worst humanitarian crisis, bombing schoolchildren and leaving 8 million Yemenis on the brink of starvation - and there were no consequences," writes columnist Nicholas Kristof. "He provoked a crisis with Qatar, and there were no consequences. He kidnapped the prime minister of Lebanon, and there were no consequences. He imprisoned women's rights activists and extorted from business leaders, and there were no consequences."

Not only have been there no consequences, but the Trump administration has bent over backward to offer excuses for the monarchy, openly citing U.S. profits from weapons deals - munitions responsible for terrible suffering and tens of thousands of deaths in Yemen. (The U.S. Religious Right push to maintain close ties with Saudi Arabia was made clear in TV evangelist Pat Robertson's remark about the advisability of not risking "$100 billion worth of arms sales" by taking on the Saudi regime.) Sadly, such genuflection has been truly bipartisan in U.S. history. The one act that Presidents Obama and Trump have both engaged in, literally, is bowing before the Saudi king.

The Saudi monarchy is fundamentally at odds with American values and constitutional principles. It is beyond redemption and reform. The Freedom From Religion Foundation is proud to have been combating the Saudi government in its own small ways (spotlighting, for instance, at its upcoming convention a dissident, Ensaf Haidar, working to free her imprisoned husband Raif Badawi). The United States needs to follow the state/church watchdog's lead and refuse to have any truck with the Saudi regime.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, based in Madison, Wis., a 501(c)(3) nonprofit educational charity, is the nation's largest association of freethinkers (atheists, agnostics), and has been working since 1978 to keep religion and government separate.

October 22, 2018

  • It's rather strange that the CCTV cameras did not function while Khashoggi was in there.
    But Lo and Behold!, a miracle happened and they came back on after all interesting activities ended.
  • Why were 15 individuals sent from Riyadh to Istanbul in two private jets to discuss things with Khashoggi.
    This is included someone with special knowledge of autopsies.
  • Please provide clear pictures and identification of all individuals allegedly involved.
    Before you behead them.
  • Who owned the two jets involved,
    and who were the pilots that I'm sure were strongly vetted for security?
  • May we speak to Turkey's former Saudi consul who was suddenly whisked out of Turkey?
    He seemed to know something about it.
  • Where is Khashoggi's body?
    Why would you hide it if he simply died in a fight.
    We will check to see how many pieces he comes in.
    My money is on Lucky 12. Torso, head, 10 fingers.
  • My money is also on Khashoggi's body have no clothes.
    They were tossed by the duplicate man who walked out the back of the consulate trying to look like Khashoggi.
  • It seems rather odd that Prince Khaled bin Salman (younger brother of Mohammed bin Salman: MBS) who was the Saudi ambassador to the US suddenly returned to Saudi Arabia within a day of Khashoggi's sudden disappearance.
  • It seems suspicious that 21 individuals are needed to make inquiries of a 59 year old man. All of them strongly connected and associated with MBS.
  • If MBS talked to Khashoggi just before he was butchered, that would be the icing on the cake.

This is all being done by two sets of idiots (Sunnis and Shiites) who have the same imaginary god, you know, that beneficient and ever merciful Allah, but consider each other as apostates (who must die, according to Allah's teaching).

When the US took over Iraq, they tossed the Sunnis in control and gave it to the Shiites. Now we are supporting the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia against the Shiites in Iran.

Kamal Khashoggi's demise? butchered, beheaded

The scribblings on the Saudi flag is the Shahada

There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Same as ISIS.

This ain't Marlboro Country. It's Allah's country.

Dedicated to an imaginary creature called Allah

Can someone please send me hard core scientific reproducible evidence of Allah ? Pretty please!

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