The one aspect of Islam that makes it unpalatable to modern western civilization is their treatment of women. According to the Quran, their Holy Scriptures of Divine Origin, a woman is half of a man.

Sura 2:282
Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses..

Sura 4:34
Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.

Islam seems to think that every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife or a concubine.

It does seem absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes.

We see pictures or watch videos of women covered in burqas or veils in Muslim countries and find them repugnant. The burqa is the Islamic Cloak of Death.

We read about how women are treated in Muslim countries and are horrified.

The hijab is merely a mechanism and a symbol of subjugation of women and of religion controlling people's lives.

Gamal Abdel Nasser on the Muslim Brotherhood and the hijab

Published on Dec 13, 2015

Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser laughing at the Muslim Brotherhood in 1958 for suggesting that women should be required to wear the hijab and that Islamic law should be enforced across the country.

In the year '53 we really wanted to compromise with the Muslim Brotherwood if they were willing to be reasonable. And I met the head of the Muslim Brotherhood and he sat with me and made his resquests.

What did he request ? The first thing he asked for was to make wearing a hijab mandatory in Egypt and demand that every woman walking in the street wear a tarha (scarf). Every woman walking!

[Someone from the crowd shouts 'Let him wear it!' the crowd applauds and laughs]

If I make that a law, they will say that we have returned to the days of Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah who forbade people from walking at day and only allowed walking at night. And my opinion is that every person in his own house to decide for himself the rules and he replied

'No, as a leader, you are responsible'. I told him, 'Sir, you have a daughter in the School of Medicine and she's not wearing a tarha'. [crowd laughing] 'Why didn't you make her wear a tarha? [crowd applause] If you are unable to make one girl - who is your daughter - wear the tarha, you want me to put a tarha on 10 million women? Myself?

  1. hijab being a choice is a privilege.

    Hijab culture is so toxic it's pretty much women one upping eachother on how invisible they could be because the more you cover up, the more brownie points you get on being a "good muslim women".

    This reaches it's top in the niqab whose women give up their enitre idnetity becasue it's a race to the bottom. How invisible can you be to avoid triggering men sexually.. well the face is an attractive part of the body.. cover that.

    It's an important thing to know that it's not just men subjecating women. Women themselves shit on other women who aren't modest like them.

    Instead of advocating that women live their life freely the hijab advocated that women live their lives trying to avoid triggering men sexually. For example you shouldn't speak softly to avoid triggering men with your voice. Another example there is a religious saying by the prophet that if a woman wore perfume and walked by a group of men and they smelled it, she is considered an adulterer cus she might trigger them with her perfume lol it's so effed up

  2. the pressure on men to enforce it

    Because of honor culture women are already not free to do what they want anyway, add to that the idea of hijab and you have a society where women's clothes is considered a reflection of how much of a man her husband is.

    So, not only is the woman considered less because she doesn't cover up, her husband is also considered less of a man because he doesn't make her do it. Men are shamed for how their wives dress/behave and are called dayouth, ie why do are you letting your wife showing her body to people ..This is because of a hadith by the prophet mentioning the dayouth word

  3. Extreme slut shaming.

    Women are called / "motabraja" which is a dergatory term for uncovered women or those who wear makeup/ whores / "naked meat" "cheap meat"/ the wood of hell fire if they take the hijab off. This is because of one "hadith" ( a saying by the prophet mohammed) where the prophet goes to the upper sky and sees women tortured because they were " dressing nakedly"

    Women are constantly made to feel guilty over how they dress. To give you an example most women are made to feel guilty for wearing pants or jeans.. Even if she's covering every inch of her body she isn't wearing "proper hijab" becaause to be a good muslim women you should wear clothes that " don't show the size of your legs" why? well ofc to avoid triggering men sexually

  4. victim blaming is the norm

    Women are almost always blamed for their sexual assault, they weren't modest enough and did the ulitmate sin of triggering the guy sexually. This happens everywhere but here it's to the extreme. again "nromal clothes" like a wearing a t-shirt or showing your hair are considered immodest and provoking the attack.

    Being raped or sexually assaulted is considered a scandal to the victim and her family. I know of one girl who was beaten by her family for reporting her sexual harassmer to the police. Another family cut off their daughter and pressured her to avoid filing a lawsuit against her rapists. Their thinking is to avoid other people knowing that their daughter got assaulted which is again is scandalous for the girl.

  5. it's not oppressive because some freely wear it?

    Some people will say some women freely wear hijab so it is not oppressive for me it's like saying some Chinese people freely like the CCP so there's no political oppression in China. You can freely wear it but taking it off requires you have to consider the backlash you will face from everyone around you and the physical danger you would be in if you spoke out against it. I was one of those ppl who freely wore at 11! But when I grew up found out that I can't freely not wear it.

    If the government threatens you with torture if you don't cover up, no one has a problem calling that oppressive. Well Islam threatens women with torture in hell fire if they don't cover up. How is there an argument of whether it's oppressive or not?

  6. it's only in the middle east that's oppressive?

    Some people say it's only in the middle east.. Please watch Dina Tokio's video where she's reading hate comments of being called a whore and a porn star because she is showing her hair. This has happened with many Muslim hijabi youtubers who chose to take it off. So it's a problem with the Muslim community everywhere!

  7. other religions have it too?

    The difference between the Islamic rules and other religions is that people take them incredibly seriously and literally. Liberal Muslims are a minority. The laws of the most Muslim countries is mainly inspired by the religion or out right theocratic. In the west you can escape your religious family and live a normal life else where. In the Middle East you have to leave the whole country for that which of course not everyone can afford.

  8. that's just culture?

    Some ppl will say it's culture but this is not true it's a mix of both toxic religious ideals of what a good woman is like plus a toxic patriarchal culture. Women being considered adulterers for wearing perfume is a religious saying for example! How do you expect a culture inspired by that will be like?

    But I am happy to answer the question of how do we know if it's religious enforcement or truly what women want. In the Middle East, Christian women aren't pressured to wear the hijab or the niqab even though they live in the same culture that western Muslims always try to stick every bad aspect to it and not the religion.

    In Egypt, Christian women wear short dresses and have their hair out VS their Islamic peers can't do the same as freely. Christian women wear these short dresses in their gathering among themselves (ie other Christians) but can't wear them on the street where the majority of ppl are Muslims. It's not exactly like being in a western country but the rules are much lax for them and the only difference is religion.

  9. so you want us to ban hijabs

    Ofc not. I just hope western feminists will stop accepting it as freely as they have. It's incredibly naive to try to water down the experiences of millions of women who were programmed with the toxic religious mindset and just start promoting that it's a choice without questioning why the hijab exists in the first place. Western women don't know how good they have it just being able to Show Your Hair. Wear what they want. Wear cute dresses. Show some skin. It's sth I had to spend 25 years of my life trying to do.

  10. but I it's bad to criticize another culture

    I don't know how that became a thing but some how white or western feminist are made to feel guilty if they critique the Islamic treatment of women. They are gas lit into thinking that saying women are oppressed in Islam is stereotyping people. If you are against the hijab you are an Islamophobic Nazi.

    This is so so dumb. I don't have to be Chinese to say that footbinding is bad. A culture can be wrong and you should be able to say so. It doesn't make you alt right to say mandating women spend their entire lives covered up to avoid sexual harassment is bad, it makes you a regular feminist.

    Please don't let any one make you feel bad for advocating against misogynistic ideas because it comes from 'brown people'. You should be able to call out Islam just as you do others.

    BTW Muslims shit on western culture all the time lol

  11. hijab is not about men I wear it for another reason

    This is something you only hear western Muslims say. This is maybe what it's for you personally but it's not what it's in Islam. For example, the day you are required to start wearing hijab is the same day you are able to get married which is the day you start getting your period.

    In the Quran, the context in which the hijab is mentioned is that some people were sexually harassing women so God ordered free women to cover up to mark themselves as free women not slaves and thus be protected from sexual harassment.

    Women are allowed to stop covering themselves up so much once they are so old that they "have no hopes of getting married" per quranic verses.

  12. but I visited a Muslim country and it wasn't like that

    Please understand that the Middle East has many different countries. Not all of them are Saudi arabia and not all of them are Lebanon either. There is also variation in different cities within the same country. Usually the touristy and rich Areas are the ones westerners have access to and are the most lax.

    You can go to a touristy area in Egypt and wear a bikini but if you wear one in a regular beach where regular middle class Egyptians go, you will probably get raped.

    It really depends on where you are but these ideas are always there in the background even if you can't see them in the place you visit.

  13. Men also have to cover

    This is also one of the favorite lines apologists like. A covered Muslim man is one who covers between his belly button and his knees. So basically a covered Muslim man is half naked one.

    Obviously, there is no hadith speaking of uncovered naked men being tortured in hell or anything like that it's just the woman lol. This rule is also mostly ignored socially anyway. Very rarely will you ever see anyone giving a guy shit for not abiding by it.

    Anyone who has seen a woman in a burqa walking with her casually dressed husband or you could also go to to a swimming pool and see women covered from head to toe with their husband's in shorts and you can immediately tell that this argument is utter bullshit. and you really can't compare the rules for men and women.

  14. some final words

    From "the world's first feminist" prophet Mohamed :

    -I had a chance to look into the Paradise and I found that majority of the people was poor and I looked into the Fire and there I found the majority constituted by women.

    I have not left after me any (chance) of turmoil more injurious to men than the harm done to the men because of women

    "The life of the world is sweet and green. Allah makes you generations succeeding one another so that He may try you in respect of your actions. So beware of the beguilements of the world and those of women. The first trial of Banu Israel was through women"

    Any woman who puts on perfume then passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance then she is an adulteress.'"

    When a man calls his wife to come to his bed (ie to have sex with her) and she refuses and does not come to him and he spends the night angry, the angels curse her till the morning

    "There are two types of people who will be punished in Hell and whom I have not seen: men having whips like the tails of cows and they will be beating people with them, and, women who will be dressed but appear to be naked, inviting to evil; and they themselves will be inclined to it. Their heads will appear like the humps of the Bactrian camel inclined to one side. They will not enter heaven and they will not smell its fragrance which is perceptible from such and such a distance."

    Aban bin Sam'ah narrated that his mother said: "I heard 'Aishah say: 'The Messenger of Allah [SAW] forbade the woman who does tattoos and the woman who has that done, the woman who affixes hair extensions and the woman who has that done, An-Namisah (the one who does the eyebrow plucking) and Al-Mutanammisah (the one who has it done)

    Aishah narrated that: The Messenger of Allah said: "Whichever woman married without the permission of her Wali (male guardian) her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid. If he entered into her, then the Mahr(dowry) is for her in lieu of what he enjoyed from her private part. If they disagree, then the Sultan is the Wali for one who has no Wali."

    The Prophet ( said: If any woman asks her husband for divorce without some strong reason, the odour of Paradise will be forbidden to her.

    If a woman prays her five (daily prayers), fasts her month (Ramadaan), guards her chastity and obeys her husband, it will be said to her: Enter Paradise by whichever of the gates of Paradise you wish." Narrated by Ahmad (1664) and others

    Tldr: hijab bad. No free Choice can be made under threat of torture. The bad culture is in many ways inspired by the religion. Western Feminists need to stop being scared of criticizing it!

I'm a woman who studied Islam in school for 12 years and this is how Islam is really treating women

I was born in a very Islamic conservative country and its education system requires you to learn 4 religious subjects (quran, hadiths, fiqh, tawhid) per term and 2 other religious subjects(tafseer and tajweed) once per school. I basically studied Islam for 12 years and learned all of its sides. I wanted to write this post because I got tired of all these fake apologists trying to deny our struggles and justify their unfair religion.

First, there's something called Aqiqah in Islam and it's a sacrifice of an animal to celebrate child birth. When the baby is male they sacrifice two animals and when it's female it's just one.

A woman body is Awra (awra means something forbidden to look at in Islam and in Arabic it means a flaw or demerit) so she is forced to cover up.

Women's voices are considered awra which means no man (other than her family and uncles) should hear it unnecessarily.

The wife cannot leave her house without her husband's agreement.

If a man smelled a woman's perfume she is as guilty as a zaniah (woman who had premarital sex).

In a Sahih Hadith Mohammad said that women are the majority of the people whom are going to hell.

In another Sahih Hadith Mohammad said that women are incomplete in both religion and mind.

Beating wives is allowed in Islam if they're not "obeying" their husbands.

A woman obeying her husband is a part (or way) of obeying Allah. Obeying husband is considered more important than obeying her parents in Islam.

A woman can't divorce her husband but he can divorce her even if he doesn't have a vaild reason.

A woman cannot object against her husband marrying another wife.

A man should give an amount of money to his future wife which is considered a justification for all the inequality above (seems like buying a slave me thinks).

Women in Islam can't lead people. There is a Sahih Hadiths that says: a nation would never succeed if a woman led them.

A woman cannot have custody of her kids if she married another man.

marital rape is allowed. If a woman refused to have sex with her husband the angels will curse her until the sun goes up.

Men can marry kids literally but can't have sex with them before they got their period, however men are still allowed to have sexual activities other than penetration with their child wives. Mohammad married Aisha when she was 6. He couldn't have sex with her because of her young age so he rubbed his penis between her thighs. (And this is in Al-Bukhary so it's considered 100% true)

Women inheritance is half their brothers'.

Women testimony is half men's testimony.

Women can't be judges.

Woman's kids cannot have her surname

Women cannot marry non-muslim men, however men can marry non-muslim women.

There is a Sahih hadith that says: women come in devil shape and go in devil shape. Its explanation is women seems like devils because they're "seductive" to men so they shouldn't walk between men unless it's necessary. (Victim blaming at its finest)

Men will have plenty of virgin good looking women in Heaven. Women will have none, instead they will have their husbands in heaven.

Women cannot be guardians of themselves in Islam as there is an ayah that says: Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

And I copied all of this fucking long Ayah because it shows you how Allah (Mohammad in disguise to be accurate) views women. I seriously get furious each time I see muslims men or women (especially the ones who live in non Islamic countries) denying or justifying women's treatment in Islam. Leftists too should stop defending Islam if they want equality to happen and seriously they should stop defending hijabs because the meaning behind it is completely misogynist and usually is forced by family. "Dyooth" is a word in Islam that means "the man who has no jealousy of his family's women" and dyooths won't go to heaven. That word is used to shame the man who doesn't control what his wife or sisters wear or who are they sleeping with or even talking to. That's why honor killing is a thing in muslim countries.

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