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This is an interesting story starting at Genesis 6:5.
A pious man called Noah who had no
previous shipbuilding experience and only three sons and their wives
to help him build one. Together, they built the largest ship ever
built in human history to house untold number of animals and their food
supply (Genesis 7:23) because his stupid God regretted making puny
weak humans.
According to biblical time frames, this event took place about 1,656 years after creation. Men lived for about 900 years back then. Draw your own conclusions. During this time, since creation, not a single school or hospital had been built. Up to this time, there had been no reference to rain in any biblical story. Noah, a 500 year old man and his three 100+ year old sons, with no modern tools or electricity, built the largest wooden ship ever (Genesis 6-9) Presumably they used metal axes for tree chopping, but there are no references to metal use at this point or how metals came to be. If he had any day labor help, he probably did not bother to tell them that they were about to die. Then along comes God, the genocidal maniac, who floods the world and killed, intentionally, every man, woman, and child on the planet save eight of them.
Kiss your wicked and evil asses goodbye Kentucky Noah's Ark sues insurance company over damage caused by heavy rains Praise Be to your Genocidal Maniac Praise Be to your Genocidal Maniac My guess is that you have to be a bonafide moron to worship a genocidal maniac. Have you considered worshipping Mao Tse-Tung or Joseph Stalin? The story of Noah is appalling. God took a dim view of humans, so he (with the exception of one family) drowned the lot of them including the children and also for good measure, the rest of the (presumably blameless) animals as well. Why did god need Noah to save the blameless animals when he could have just re-created them, as in Genesis? It would seem that God's omnipotent powers are diminishing. You'd think an omnipotent omniscient being could have been more selective in killing the evil people with a selective heart attack here, a lightning bolt there, a stroke over there, an accidental decapitation here, a small asteroid collision way over there..... etc..... The story of Noah's Ark was copied almost word for word from the much older Sumerian Epic of Atrahasis. What this really means is that our true ruler is the supreme sky god, Anu.
You might want to pull your head out of your ass at this point.
And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou
bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male
and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind,
of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort
shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
This says that all the dinosaurs were rounded up and placed on the ark. There is nothing said about the dinosaurs being excluded. How did Noah round up the dinosaurs? How come they all died?
Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and
his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep
seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
I guess Noah physically inspected each animal to verify it's sex and we can only hope that none of the animals were gay and had no desire to reproduce with the opposite sex. Why do you find all the penguins (every single one) down in Antartica and nowhere else? How did they get there so fast and not a one settled somewhere else. Why do you find kangaroos only in Australia and nowhere else? How did they get across the water barrier?
When Noah's ark finally rested atop Mount Ararat, the kangaroos stepped off and
hopped 7726 miles straight to Australia. And without any opposable thumbs, they
picked their own dead as to not leave a trace of their migration:
Did Noah have sex with his daughters in law. Did Noah's wife bear any of her grandchildren? It's certain that Noah's children practiced incest. They had to. Did God really have to kill everybody except Noah and his wife and children? Don't you love it when your loving god kills all the little laughing children to satisfy his genocidal lust?
The Altitude Problem (unexplained) As the rains fell, the ark rose higher than any mountain on earth. The atmosphere rose over five miles and some atmosphere was lost in space as the earth rotates. There are over 100 mountains over 23,622 feet high . The story is suggesting that the amount of water on the planet tripled or quadrupled. And where did it all drain afterwards? The religious zealots will tell you that the mountains were all much shorter then and rose significantly due to the flood waters receding. Tectonic plate shift is not well understood by the religious zealots.
Salt Water / Fresh Water Fish Problem (unexplained) Fresh water fishes cannot survive in salt water since they lack the capability to handle the salt intake (salinity tolerance) on their gills. When the Ark landed, how did the fish get to fresh water so quickly and survive in fresh water. Did they simply evolve into fresh water fish very quickly.
The Insect/Bird Life Problem (unexplained) Given that there are tens of thousands different bird types and hundreds of thousands of insect types, how did they all survive even if they were all the on the ark? The elevation and temperatures would certainly have killed them. This must be covered by super-evolution. Many species, including fruit flies, have very short lives, and the original pair would not have survived the trip, making it necessary for reproduction while on the ark in order for the species to survive. If you have ever bred fruit flies (take a genetics class) you will know that a fruit fly is sexually active within 5 hours of hatching. Their generation times are very short. By the end of the 40 days and 40 nights (not to mention the time waiting for the waters to recede), the ark would have been filled from one end to the other with annoying fruit flies. Therefore, either they routinely sprayed insecticide around the ark to keep these, and other similar species, in control; put up fly paper; or else these species evolved quickly after departure from the ark. Do religious zealots ever visit nature museums with those insect displays showing the huge diversity of insect life? Famed biologoist E.O. Wilson once estimated that the number of insects on earth is around ten quintillion. That's 1.4 billion insects per human being on Earth. If they were not constantly eaten, there would be many more.
The Plant Life Underwater Problem (unexplained) If the flood covered the world for a year, we can clearly conclude that all plant life was killed. This raises some nasty questions as to how it came back to life. If God did not bring it back, then Noah and his sons must have gathered the seeds of millions of different plants all over the planet and had them stored on the Ark. That must have been quite a project in itself. Did no one ask any questions like Hey Noah, how come you gathering all these seeds? Is something up? Of course, the animals could not eat these seeds since they were needed for the second genesis. Then Noah and his sons and wives had to go back and plant the seeds all over the planet at all latitudes and longtitudes before releasing all the animals. Then the plants had to grow enough to be able to feed the animals just released from the Ark.
There seems to be a serious time warp in Genesis 9:20-21.
Genesis 9:21: When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk... Of course, the religious fanatics will tell you that photosynthetis works fine under 5,000-25,000 feet of water. It's the miracle of God! By the way, where did all that water go? End of Noah's flood: 2343 BC There are trees that are older than that, and strangely enough, the Egyptian pyramids were built around that time. I guess Noah and his sons built the pyramids.
Feeding and Caring for all animals (unexplained) Imagine trying to run the entire Bronx Zoo with just eight employees. Now consider that Noah's leaky tub, by even the most forgiving estimates, would have to have had far more kinds of animals (including dinosaurs, which creationists believe existed simultaneously with humans, a la the Flintstones). Imagine how much feeding, watering, and manure-carrying that would be. Imagine all this frenetic activity taking place in the cramped, dark, foul-smelling confines of a wooden boat, with predators and prey side-by-side in narrow pens, during the most violent and catastrophic storm in the history of the planet, with an absolute requirement that not a single animal get sick or die. Now try not to laugh too hard at the people who seriously believe all this really happened. How many ants were provided to feed the ant eaters? Only two? The original origin/deluge story dates back to 1620 BCE and has been passed on to make the Noah's Ark story.
At the end of the flood, Noah sent out a dove and the dove came in to him
in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off:
so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.
Apparently olive trees grow underwater and do not require photosynthesis.
And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast,
and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
To thank the lord, Noah toasted a few animals and birds as an offering to a god that loves the smell and taste of cooked meat. Everybody loves a good Barbeque. We will never know which species were sacrificed and were never again seen on this earth. Way to go, god. This was the opportunity to toast the two mosquitoes on the ark. The opportunity was lost. Super Evolution (unexplained) Now, the creationists are supporting the concept of super evolution to cling to their precious Noah's Ark story. They super evolution theory states that Noah only brought a limited set of animals on board the ark, the animals evolved very quickly after they were released from the ark (even if there was no plant life for them to eat). All the animals at all levels evolved quickly in the last 4,000 years into the millions of different species that exist today.
Lastly, the Egyptians and the Chinese civilizations that were operating back in 2300 BC have no such records of any flooding. It should seem obvious that Noah and his son built the pyramids, although no records were kept by Noah and his sons.
According to my old sunday school teacher, who was a submariner in WW2, Noah patroled the great seas in his dreadnaught torpedoeing any and all vessels he could find with total disregard to the Geneva convention. With 16 inch radar ranging guns, he was able to conserve his torpedoes for capital ships that were ferrying supplies and sinners to safe outposts like Hawaii and Fargo, North Dakota. Having achieved total air and sea domination, he sent out a pair of F -15 strike eagles to search for a deep water port in which to anchor and resupply after a 40 day battle deployment. Unfortunately while steaming for a suitable port, he ran aground on mount Yasser Arrafat in what is now present day Palestine. After unloading his cargo of every pair of animal and insect onto terra firma, Noah reviewed his manifest with customs officials, and to his horror discovered that he had indeed brought mosquitoes and termites into the new ethnically cleansed world. In a strange twist of fate, while on the beach getting his tan back, Noah was bitten by one of the mosquitoes he had unknowingly saved from the great flood, and contracted Dengue fever which lead to his eventual demise. True story!
This story is clearly false, the F-15 is not carrier rated. Now, if it had been F-18s or F-14s, that would have been something I could have believed...
The relentless message to visitors to Ark Encounter is that our world is as fallen and wicked as Noah's, and that the destruction of the flood including the obliteration of all humans (including babies) other than a virtuous few was not just acceptable but praiseworthy.
If you're ever feeling stupid, just remember that there are grown adults who literally believe two penguins walked all the way from Antarctica to the Middle East in order to board a ship built by a 500 year old man.
Earth population in 5000 BCE - 30 to 50 million human beings. Estimates of the # of women pregnant at any given moment in a world w/o birth control is about 2.5%. Assuming an Earth population of 50 million at the time of the Great Flood, this means God killed 625,000 (evil) fetuses. On purpose.
Noah's Ark, a tale accepted as fact in the Abrahamic faiths, does not stand up to even the slightest scrutiny. Here is everything I can think of, that makes the Noah's Ark story not only a complete impossibility, but incompetently inconsistent. To start, God claims "man's wickedness was widespread on the earth and that every scheme his mind thought of was nothing but evil all the time." Not only is this the most extreme of generalizations-they are ALL corrupt and evil, even in their thoughts, besides Noah and his family? Noah and company learned proper morals and behavior in a total vacuum? And didn't have any friends at all? Where did he learn the art of shipbuilding, and of all the tools and concepts necessary for crafting one? From those "wicked" humans, who must've utilized teamwork? So, not only is this a wildly extreme condemnation, but how-with this display-is God himself not corrupt and mad with power? It's like a school shooter declaring themselves the arbiter of justice. If "every creature had corrupted its way on the earth", wouldn't each pair of animals saved still carry that same corruption within them? Or did there just-so-happen to exist seven righteous pairs of clean animals, and two righteous pairs of the unclean-an oddly precise amount? Who built this ark? 450 feet long, with three decks? It's extremely unlikely they would've had any help-as no one else was selected to survive. That leaves his wife, his three sons, and their wives. Eight people in all. Eight people to build the thing? Eight people to shepherd all those animals, and half-a-year's food for everyone involved, aboard? Eight people to take care of the feeding and cleaning for what must have been well over 100 animals (and that's low-balling it)? I'm just not seeing it. Imagine the stink. Imagine dealing with unruly animals that would have had very little room to move about. And would simple gopher wood really keep them all in place? God's final count for the pairs (seven pairs of the clean, seven pairs of the birds, two pairs of the unclean) is given only seven days before the flood. And what about sealife, or land animals that can survive in water? If all life on Earth is corrupted, that's a pretty huge omission to make. Everything else is sentenced to death, but sealife gets the free pass? This "God" is a bumbling idiot. Noah disembarks, and the first thing he does is make burnt offerings out of "every kind of clean animal and every kind of clean bird". God finds the aroma "pleasing". ...That's just disgusting. And these two are considered "righteous", and "blameless"? It gets worse. God's "covenant" is as good as nothing: "Never again will every creature be wiped out by the waters of a flood. There will never again be a flood to destroy the earth." "Water will never again become a flood to destroy every creature. [...] This is the sign of the covenant that I have confirmed between Me and every creature on earth." God keeps his options for destruction and genocide wide-open, by repeatedly stating within his "covenant", that only the use of a flood is off-limits. This is a promise that is as good as nothing. The next story about this most-righteous man, Noah, calls into question both his morals, and God's judgment of character. In Genesis 9, Noah gets drunk off wine and randomly takes all of his clothing off, before falling asleep. One son, Ham, tells his brothers, who proceed to cover Noah with a cloak, without looking. Noah is enraged upon waking, and curses not Ham-but Ham's son, Canaan-to be "the lowest of slaves to his brothers". This is the "blameless" man God picked to be the sole human inheritor of the Earth? Noah's "family records". All people mentioned died post-flood, so evidence ought to exist. Noah lived to be almost an entire millennium old-950 years. And Shem's age was 600, upon death. Noah's descendants continued living to ludicrously lengthy ages, and yet, there has never been any human being, or hominid-like creature, discovered whose age even comes close to these figures. These "records" also do not list a single wife or daughter's name. No women are listed, at all. Period. ZERO. It speaks as if men father children themselves, all on their own. Beyond the "family records", the story also gives exact dimensions for the ark, and exact dates of departure ("the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month") and landing ("the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat"), so no-this story is not a metaphor. It's clearly positioned to be taken as literal history. Only one man's story, and it's stuffed to the gills with despicably questionable content. Most of the major stories and figures in the Bible fare no better. Next up! Abraham, chosen and blessed by God above all others-is a rich slaveholder who rapes his wife's slave to have his first child. The slave, escaping the couple's torment, is found by an "angel of the Lord", who tells her: "You must go back to your mistress and submit to her mistreatment." That God -so incorruptible and righteous, isn't He?
There is so much evidence that not only did a world wide flood NEVER happen, but it simply COULD NOT POSSIBLY have ever happened. It is also a fact that ALL the evidence does, really and truly, go against it. And they have found NOTHING on Mt. Ararat. Finding the Ark on Mt. Ararat is a story for gullible people and you have to wonder why some people choose to believe it. I mean, come on. In today's day and age there is NOWHERE on earth that people can't go. The hardest place to go is the very bottom of the sea, and we have even gone there and can do it anytime we want. They have landed Helicopters ON THE TOP of Mt. Everest. Turkey is a friendly country and easily allows access to Mt. Ararat. You can arrange to climb Ararat, explore it, or even land helicopters on it. As a mountain to climb and explore it isn't even rated as that very difficult. So if there was something there, didn't you think people would simply be all over it? And would have been looking at it for thousands of years? We don't have to stand back and look at some strange rock formations and say, "Hey, it ALMOST looks like the hull of a boat." We can go there and see that it is just geology. And people have done it many times, but they don't want to tell you that, do they. Because that would spoil the fantasy and put an end to their financial support. I know this is a delicate subject for some, and I am not trying to be anti-religious. But belief in an actual, literal, worldwide flood is not even accepted as a 'literal' story among MOST Christian denominations, so it isn't necessarily part of religion in general. Though it is part of particular beliefs of some groups. There are parts of the bible that are clearly parables. Stories, meant to teach. For instance, the Book of Job is exactly that. I mean, in Job, God and Satan are sitting down for lunch together one day (figuratively) and they make a bet. Satan gets to torture a good, pious man, kill his family, take everything from him, and if the man doesn't reject God, then God wins. Is this actually supposed to be a true story? Or is it actually just a lesson? Why would God have made a bet with Satan? God doesn't have to prove anything to Satan, and if he did, then Satan wouldn't learn anyway, right? It is just a story for teaching. And the same can be said about The Flood. Much of the story of the Creation is obviously a myth, designed to teach lessons. It is impossible to say that Life, the Universe and Everything WAS NOT created by God. But if you read the first 20 verses of the Bible, it says that God pulled the earth out of Water. It mentions Water about 14 times in those first 20 verses. What? We know nowadays that space is not an Ocean. But ancient people didn't. How would God have pulled the earth out of non-existent water? The same thing can be said for The Exodus, and The Flood. Many people have believed them as real history, despite no evidence whatsoever for either of them. You can disprove the Flood through innumerable methods, including Astronomy, Physics, Geology and even Genetics and Ecology. A flood would have left tremendous evidence in the INBRED GENES of all the surviving animals. And on and on. But being HISTORY is not their purpose. In my opinion, and this is only my opinion, if you want to understand the world and life, then it is important to understand truth, and accept the truth, wherever you find it. Truth is truth. It has no political party, religion, or agenda. It is just what is. There is only one truth and one reality. Something in the universe either IS, in a certain way, or it ISN'T. We might not know or understand the actual truth of EVERYTHING, but there are many things we DO understand. And the universe exists in such a way that we can use evidence to find more knowledge and come closer and closer to the ACTUAL truth. In the case of "Noah's Flood" the truth is that there are many many evidences that the flood never happened, and not a single bit of actual evidence to show that it did. If all the above doesn't convince you, then there is more, much more. So, let's look at some of the evidence. See this statue: This is Sargon the Great, also known as Sargon of Akkad. He ruled Akkadia - the area which became Babylon - from about the 24th to the 23rd century B.C.E., which was 4,400 to 4,300 years ago. He is important in our understanding of the LACK of a flood. (Picture courtesy of Wikipedia.) All you have to do is to realize that the flood supposedly happened during the time he was alive, and yet historical and archaeological evidence of his culture, and the written records of his culture and language, goes on unbroken from almost 1000 years before him until 1000 years after him, and never showed any 'changes' or perturbations from all the people supposedly drowning and everything getting washed away in a flood. Apparently, they never noticed. So, WRITTEN RECORDS FROM THE ACTUAL TIME SHOW THAT IT NEVER HAPPENED, as well as multiple other sources of 'proof' against it. For instance, Sumerians and Akkadians were BOTH writing down DIFFERENT LANGUAGES and never noticed a flood. Egyptians were also already using a different system and writing their own language from before and after this, and they too never noticed any flood. Geological and Archaeological evidence from around the world shows there was NEVER any evidence of a really major flood, let alone a worldwide flood. We can use Geology to trace back the history of the land masses of the earth for many hundreds of millions of years, and there was never a time when the whole world was underwater. Honestly and really, guys, do you think it would be possible to have a worldwide flood and not leave incredible amounts of evidence, EVERYWHERE? It would literally be impossible to ignore all the evidence for a flood, if it had actually happened. And if it happened a mere 4,300 years ago, as the Young Earth Creationist calculate, then the evidence would be overwhelming and immense, EVERYWHERE. Meanwhile, creationists go around trying to claim there IS geological evidence for the flood. They point to the Grand Canyon - which ANY geologist can read and can tell was carved over millions of years by a simple river, and then the geologist can show why it clearly WAS NOT caused by a flood. It clearly has the wrong shape and form to have come from a flood. Creationists also point to the layers of rock containing dinosaur bones (and strangely not containing any people or modern mammals) and try to say that THIS is evidence for the flood. The flood washed the dinosaurs away. Really. So, where are the bones of all the other, MODERN MAMMALS and people that were washed away with them? Not a one can be found, with them. So, how do creationists try to claim this? I just don't know. Do you honestly think the 'layers' were laid down by a flood? A FLOOD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. It doesn't meander back and forth, on different levels, like the Grand Canyon. It rushes right through everything, as straight as possible. And it disrupts layers rather than causing multiple layers. Do you really think geologists have no idea at all about what they are doing? Or even that there is some great conspiracy among geologists to lie to everyone and cover up evidence of a flood? Do you honestly think such a conspiracy could be possible? This, and other suppositions about supposed evidence for a flood is on the level of understanding that was shown by the goat herders in the mountains of Canaan, from 3000 years ago when they saw only about 100 kinds of animals (enough to fit on an ark, right?) and they didn't know about the rest of the world, so flooding it could be possible, right? Babylon was less than 600 miles from Jerusalem. And Babylon / Akkadia and Sumeria truly were the 1000 pound gorillas of the ancient world. So, keep in mind that the ancient Hebrews were clearly steeped in the legends from the Mesopotamian cultures, the stories of Mesopotamian Gods - who were the SAME gods that the Canaanites / Hebrews worshipped. And they all 'knew' the stories of Gilgamesh and a Flood (which in the OLDEST versions only happened ON THE EUPHRATES RIVER, though the story 'grew' from there) and the other Mesopotamian legends. EVERYONE knew these stories and accepted them. But they just didn't have enough knowledge of the actual world. You'd think that modern people would understand that we have real, tremendous amounts of knowledge now, and that knowledge shows that a worldwide flood was NOT, ever, a real thing.. Here is just one an example of why we couldn't 'miss' the evidence for the flood. It shows how good our knowledge actually is. Scientists can look at the rise in sea level after the last Ice Age, and tell you that the sea level rose about 1 meter per century (about 365 feet or so, total) in the period of time from about 12,000 years ago to 8,000 years ago. They do this by precise measurements from hundreds of locations around the world. Do you honestly think they could see that and measure that, and somehow MISS A WORLDWIDE FLOOD? It boggles the mind. (Global sea-level rise at the end of the last Ice Age) Oh, one other thing as an aside, but, as a biologist, I feel compelled to mention this . . . Did you know that plants DROWN in a flood, or when they are underwater, just as much as animals? 99.999% of plant species could never have survived the flood. NOR COULD THEIR SEEDS. But Noah never took any plants on the Ark, because the goat herders in the deserts and mountains never thought of this. In fact, how did Noah know that the flood was over? Why he sent out a DOVE, which flew around, and then returned to the Ark with an olive branch in its beak. How very strange. Olive trees survived the flood somehow? And were still growing? Certainly not the olive trees that WE know about. Meanwhile, the Bible wasn't written until at least 1,500 years after this flood supposedly happened. But these parts of the Bible aren't really a 'record' in any way. And there is not a single recorded, written inscription or ANY SINGLE VERSE OF THE BIBLE IN ANYTHING, or ON ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, until after 600 BCE. No stone monuments with any verses from the Bible, before 600 BCE. No prayers from the Bible written on the foundations or lintels of buildings, before this. No single inscription from the Bible on any shred of pottery, or anything else, before this. But we also know that it was the Jewish priests in captivity, IN BABYLON, who finally wrote down the earliest books of our Bible. Why is this so? Why weren't there any written parts of the bible before? Even before the development and common usage of the Canaanite/Hebrew script, there were clearly Canaanite and Hebrew scholars who could read, write and use Cuneiform script. So why didn't anyone bother to record a single bible verse, before about 600 BC? The closest we have ever found to written verses or stories of the Bible, before 650 BCE were the stories written in the Epic of Gilgamesh IN BABYLON, 1,500 years earlier. And they certainly aren't the Bible. But there are a number of strange coincidences here, aren't there? Anyway, I hope this helps make a few things clear, for people who want to understand actual evidence. Please feel free to upvote, or not.
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